School Board Work Session

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceOkay,

Speaker 9we're good. All right.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceGood evening, ladies and gentlemen. It is Monday, October 21st, 2024, and this is a work session on the City of Fairfax School Board. We're going to begin with our presentations to the school board, and we have an update from the academy, Fairfax Academy. So we have the academy principal, Ms. Andrea Cook, Ms. Kendall Berry, who's the fashion careers instructor, career experience specialist. We're going. Are we going here? Over

Sarah Kelseyhere? Or you can go up.

Speaker 9So some quick just general academy updates from our lens. We're slightly bigger than we were last year. About 102 additional students. That's mostly just because of space. We're running out of rooms. build me a new building. And we could maybe have a few more students. But it's great. We had large wait lists for a lot of our programs, luckily, or unluckily, for some students. We were able to work through a lot of our wait lists with just some schedule conflicts for students. It gives you change their mind, which happens. We don't have any new courses this year. We're maintaining where we are. We do have some slight changes that have been put forward through course review for the county, and we should have those updates in November.

All of those things get finalized. I'm looking for some new programming as well, but we're definitely in an area of planning and dreaming. So any thoughts or ideas, feel free to share. We also welcomed two new staff members this year. So Ms. C is our new ASL teacher. She's joining us from Woodson. She was there the past two years. And then we were fortunate enough to hire a third special educator, Academy Resource Teacher. additional staffing for us. So we hired Mr. Reyes and he came over from the middle school for us. He's been teaching business courses so great that having been an elective teacher and he's a Spanish speaker so had some more diversity in languages with Miss C's fluency in ASL as well.

I'll pass it over to Ms. Berry, our passion teacher.

Kendall BarrystaffI'm a fashion career student here at Fairfax Academy I'm going into my third year teaching here fun fact I'm actually a Fairfax County homeless schools graduate and I did Academy when I was in high school back then I took fashion design but it's the same course I went to Anandale High and we went into West Potomac but now I'm back after my amazing experience in the Academy I went and I worked in New York for various designers for about 13 years, and I decided to come back because my family is still here, and various other reasons. But it's really amazing, you know, seeing what the students can accomplish from my lens. And so, like I said, this is my third year going into it. This year, students have more access

to industry-standard equipment and design software. So students are preparing for our annual fashion in motion fashion show this year. That's going to be during Spotlight on the Arts. So that's really exciting. My level two students are already starting to work on their development with design, pattern making, and fabric sourcing. My level ones are still in their kind of core curriculum. But this year we're planning on having guest speakers come and do portfolio reviews. And also I'm planning on leaning more into my professional network to get guest speakers in from companies such as Michael Kors Collection where I used to work, Nike, Anthropologie, and such. Last year we had a really exciting collaboration within Miss Virginia USA. So

students designed and worked together to create her state costume for the pageant, the final pageant, the Miss USA pageant, and she wore it on the main stage, and they also created that orange look you see which was for interview outfit so that was really fun exciting for us for that and the students get to put that in portfolios which is really great we also are continuing our partnership with the grill of Greater Washington so my level one students is more of an upcycling challenge where their fashion show looks it's really great because good real greater Washington is really supportive we go in we do field trips and learning about career paths, you know, from their corporations or stores.

And then they also give the kids gift certificates to go thrifting. So they love that, but it's just really great focus on sustainability in addition to other parts of the design aspects. And some really exciting equipment updates. So students, my level two students have iPads and Apple pencils, and they're learning digital fashion sketching and Procreate software, is moving. I teach them that their second year. In the first year I teach them traditional designing art mediums, but it's really great that they can get their hands on that equipment now because it's faster, it's easier, and it's just more efficient, right? Some students love that old-school traditional art method, but Procreate has been awesome addition to the classroom. We also have new industrial

gravity irons, which are really amazing because I didn't even touch those until I went to design school to college but they can start playing around with that now for professional garment construction and finishing. We also have some brand new industry standard pattern cutting tables so thank you Jeff and the city for that. That's been really great for the students to be able to spread out and do work and actually cut and lay out their fabrics and patterns professionally how it's done in industry and you can see a picture up in the right hand corner there and I just ordered which is exciting some new inclusive dress forms and body forms for draping so you know different sizes and then also mini and full-size scale forms

with men's I have a lot of male students this year it's very different from when I was in high school but it's great and so a lot of them have an interest in menswear so they can start exploring that now at a young age and so curriculum updates by level one and two students are pursuing internships and they also participate in outside fashion contests and they also engage in other local educational opportunities so we're fortunate that we have some like long established internship opportunities with the Academy they reach out they love our students every year because they're blown away about how professional and talented they are and you know with all their skill sets so they're going to continuing to collaborate on the fashion show as well we're planning on also

partnering with the TV and film classes here the photo classes here the computer technology classes for our fashion show so we like to you know get their talents and expertise and what they're learning and help with the show and make it more of like a major academy event versus just fashion we like to get the other students involved too so save the date our fashion show is going to be on May It's gonna be at the Sherwood Center, that's what we've had in the past couple years. But I'm happy to give you a front row ticket. If you wanna come, just reach out to me or Andrea or Amy and we'll make sure that you are blown away. Thank you.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceWant to ask a question? Do you want to wait to learn about the... Specifically?

Amit HickmanYeah. What is the gravity iron?

Kendall BarrystaffOh, that's a great question. It sounded really cool, but I don't know what it is. So, you know, traditional home irons, in them right for the steam so gravity irons they are more industrial so it's like hotter steam, hotter pressing, more settings but the water basin is hung above it so it's fed with gravity you don't have to fill up the water but it just gets a really professional finish. It's kind of hard to explain and I actually taught ACE courses this year well in fall and in spring for adult sewing classes, which was really fun. Andrea was one of my first students. No pressure. So she got to play around on them. The ironing boards themselves are also industrial, and it's interesting because they have two settings where they can pull air down

as you're pressing, so it immediately dries the steam, and that sets it. And also, there's another setting where it blows the air up as you're pressing it. That's more for, like, knitwear, like polo shirts, like items that can't really be seen repressed but it's really technologically it's so awesome that we have them in the classroom now because you know traditional like home irons and ironing boards are okay like when you're first learning but now it just takes their construction with the garments to the next level

Speaker 8this one makes my job so as the career experience specialist this is only my second year in this position where I'm still figuring some stuff out it's about students to have career specific workshops on skills or speak to people in terms of networking or internships, scholarships, etc. Every time I go to Kendall, she's already like, well, I already have these 15 people coming in and all these things. And I'm like, you did, can I get their number? And then recently we were talking about work-based learning and she's like, okay so what is that? I was like what you do. She just didn't understand that of course you would supply these kids with like doing this as a career choice. That this is not a hobby class. This is not

simply a skills you know thing to get a quick A. She is preparing them to have work in this field. So we are so lucky to have her. In terms of the job it's the same thing. It's about making some connections with our programs and the industry directly but also about that cross collaboration like Kendall talked about with her fashion emotion show the MCT kids will be working with studio trilogy sound studio to actually create and produce the tracks that will then be used in the show our photography students will be using it as a professional photography venture etc so So that's a really exciting thing to see everybody working together. This year for new, MCT is doing a lot, led by Matt Carlin.

We are doing a tour, job site tour, and mentoring with some friends at Sirius XM in DC, as well as American University. Our Chinese program is partnering with Near West, which is actually a musical theater company that partners with schools in China. So it bridges again. We have these, you know, additional groups where I go, oh, we can all fit in that classroom. And I go, oh, no, we're going to use the NPR because that actually connects to these three overlapping intersecting programs. We are working with Arena Stage this year to add to our local rep companies, Trilogy Sound Studios in Springfield. There's some new internships that are popping up, including a social media one that just started at Delray Montessori.

Choreography continues at Mantua Elementary with Eye Contact and of course the design program there at OnCore Ballroom here in Fairback City. We are continuing with guest artist speakers, field trips, the whole thing. Our partnership with George Mason is getting stronger by the minute. My heart lives there because I'm an alum there and so I'm talking to all my friends going well why haven't we done this? And they're like,

Amit Hickmanwe've never been asked. And they're like,

Speaker 8come do this! And so we're starting to make that bridge, particularly aiming at their music technology courses, but also with theater, dance, and the languages. Let's see, ambassadors! Our leadership program popped up to over a hundred this year. Very excited kids from all over the county that are just like, what can we do? They're giving a lot more, they're given a lot more ownership this year, since it's not my first year. these events, we have all these things, what are we going to do? And they just jumped on and started like chomping. They're like, can we do this one? What if we did it like this? So I'm really excited for those kids. We are also now going to elementary schools and middle schools and inviting them in for tours to start that recruitment earlier

and to let them know that like, it doesn't have to be a what do you want to be when you grow up question, but like what classes might be really cool to take to kind of explore that. So that's exciting. I love the littles. Anyway, Expo is different this year, so thanks to your support. Last year was this big extravaganza on one day. It was my first event here at Academy, and it was chaos. But it was wonderful and magnificent. I started asking all these people that I didn't know for things, and then this year we reformatted it to take place over the whole month of November. And this allowed for teachers to plan their classes and for these workshops and people that are coming in to share their stories to be really targeted to that specific program.

And not have it be like kind of sort of connected, really specifically connected. It also hits every single student at Academy. So we're very excited for that. And it also shows them that like when you're an artist, you get paid for your work. Like your time is your expertise. That is your job. to do as we ask them to do. And yeah, we have some fun people. Gallaudet University is sending us Professor Mama Holt, which is like, she's famous in the world of deaf theater. She's really something. And they have a show that's opening up, so she's even bringing performers here. And that's going to be speaking with our ASL classes as well as our theater classes.

Speaker 9I'm coming in then just to round it out so as Amy mentioned in Career Expo all month again thank you to the city for the support also thank you for helping to fund our second annual ambassador kick off day how we did that what two weeks ago an incredible just day of some leadership we were with I contact coaching our Ignite partner to offer those leadership skills and help the kids just understand what skills we bring to the table. So that's cool. Hot off the press, our annual winter musical is Once Upon a One More Time, the Britney Spears Jukebox Musical. We will be one of the first high schools producing the show. We actually knew we were doing it and weren't allowed to release the

Amit Hickmantitle

Speaker 9for months. It's driving the children crazy. So that'll be January 31st through February 8th. Come one, come all. I will tell you,

Speaker 8sitting

Speaker 9in auditions today the first day was like, yeah. I'm going to finish the show.

Kendall BarrystaffThis is the show. Some of my students are going to help with the costumes. So that's really exciting. Yeah, that's fantastic.

Speaker 9Side note, if you plan your annual dinner with the school board, the request is to make to not do opening night.

Amit HickmanJust

Speaker 9trying to get out there. Add a little sweat on the collar. Oh, future forecast. I forgot I do this. So IT's that we're looking at some course offerings. So looking at some honors and dual enrollment options for our classes. Unfortunately MCT was dual enrolled. We were in the first dual enrollment class in the entire county. And NOVA got rid of the course. So looking at how we can bring that dual enrollment experience to a lot of our existing courses. And also really being strategic about which courses that have a four year pathway especially. Really should have that honors waiting. So we're working with to get some of those conversations going, those partnerships, that paperwork sign. So we have a few things in the works, which will be fun.

And then, as I said, industry. Really looking at what kids need in this area, what kids here at Fairfax need, so

Sarah Kelseywe

Speaker 9don't walk down the hallway. What are some programs in the county that are oversubscribed that we could add here? We also want to stay sensitive to we are the Arts and Communications Academy, so what are some other opportunities we can provide our students that partner really well with arts and languages? So like hospitality, that whole industry really excites us because there could be some really cool things. You can hear about events even. They could do some event in the afternoon. But that's what we're looking at.

Sarah KelseyAny questions? Yeah.

Speaker 9Any

Sarah Kelseyquestions? I don't. Let me just ask. Just asking, around your fashion and design, do you only go up to level two? Or is there thoughts of going farther? That's a great question. Right

Kendall Barrystaffnow, it's only me, and my classes are always full, and I have a wait list. So it's tough to add another level.

Speaker 9She

Kendall Barrystaffcould create.

Speaker 9We'd have to convince the state of Virginia. Okay. That's a whole process. It's also only for juniors and seniors.

Sarah KelseySo there's no 13th. The level one or two is only junior? Okay, got it.

Speaker 9There is an intro to fashion careers class that we can consider looking at for sophomores at some point. I can see her class three times over. I really just need to duplicate Kendall. And the studio, so we can get teaching. I need another room. It'll be a theme. I need another room.

Sarah KelseyI'm just going to keep asking. I've learned. I just need to keep asking. Keep putting it in there. No, and I was just going to say, like, I've already said it to you guys, that I think spreading out the career day is a great idea so that, you know, they, I thought it was going to be, you could hit multiple things. on what those kids are interested in and it can hit every kid because I think sometimes career days they forget that there are those kids that don't fix the you know mold so it's not

Speaker 8besides the scheduling to they

Sarah Kelseygo every

Speaker 8other day so if you're not built in for that day they have to jump over hoops to be able to come on this day and now it's just the day you're here

Sarah Kelseyum my other question for you and I don't know if you can answer it just if you can how many students do you think in the academy are actually city kids that are like or that are fair yes or or city or fairfax even

Speaker 9fairfax i i would have to individually pull each kid to figure out city okay so fairfax high school were anywhere between 30 and 40 percent okay um that shifts depending upon the program some programs are heavier fairfax some kids are lighter fairfax kendall's lighter fairfax just this year look of the draw that shifts every year um we also within that 30 to 40 at least 10 if not 20 kids that people place for the Academy Thank

Amit Hickmanyou Yes, so has there been any software challenges I learned recently that in our auto tech program There's some limitations based off the internet firewall whatever it is security through FCPS have you run into that? Is there any limitations that's causing you to not be able to access a certain software program or something you

Speaker 9want the students to use? Not this year. Last year, right after we got, no,

Carolyn Pitchesby voicelast year, two years ago,

Speaker 9right after we got our game design program up and running. We were all excited. The computers were delayed coming in. We finally got them started October 1st. Unity was shut down in the state. So at any time, I now know we run the risk of if a software company violates Virginia state law with minors, because they were pushing ads, we have to pause our software. So we've been lucky. I think the new county guys are trying to get ahead of that. A lot of our software that's downloaded, like in the NCT lab, we don't run into those issues because the kids aren't interfacing directly with an outside vendor. So we're just going to keep aiming for those things. We do run into some software needs and TV still that would require an internal server and that's just something the county is unable to

Stacy Hallby voicesupport.

Speaker 9I've partnered with my friends at Prince William to give some solutions so we're still working with them. But similar issues to what Otto was describing. Yeah,

Amit HickmanI saw your face and I was like okay, I'm just curious what's happening other places. And no more questions but a comment. I'm so sad about no ASL 4. So I just would love to see that brought back or at least for the kids that had signed on as a year one that had planned to follow through some kind of continuation. I know it was out of your hands. I know. I still don't have

Speaker 9to

Amit Hickmancomment because we

Speaker 9missed it a lot this year. And we've run into that with Arabic 4, ASL 4, and Korean 5. So we weren't going to run Korean 5 and the Korean Embassy is paying for that section for us. So unfortunately at some point we make the tough call. Okay, thank you.

Stacy Hallby voiceMs. Law? No questions, just a comment. I absolutely love the fashion show. It's one of my favorite things that you do here. And I have to say from a viewer perspective, I think the lower level of students walking was much better this year with the short skirts.

Kendall BarrystaffI'm like, guys, this is like a professional event. It's a little focused. The shirt

Stacy Hallby voiceskirts are fine, but when they're at ground level, it's way better.

Kendall BarrystaffYou also get to see the garments better. And that's how it's done in the industry. The race stage, people don't really do that anymore. It's more intimate to have the floor seating. but it's great because you know my first year I had to manage everything right because it was my first time doing the event but now my students really take ownership of the event and it's their show right I'm just helping facilitate so you know I have a director I have a stage manager I have all these people that once they do it when they take level one and they see how it works they take ownership of the show but they already voted that they want the floor So I was like, that's great.

Stacy Hallby voiceThank you. I appreciate your time.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceI already asked a question. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Can you guys just talk a little bit about the internship process? Like how you walk the kids through it? Are they summer internships? Are they during the school year internships?

Speaker 8So we ask, like I will ask any of our partners that we're working with if they have opportunities for high schoolers. That tends to be the first question. It's like, are there high school opportunities?

Amit HickmanA

Speaker 8lot of these theater companies know, but then there might be some for camps, et cetera. Like Arena Stage is considering giving us an internship for their summer camp

Amit Hickmanprogram,

Speaker 8which would be great. Eye Contact runs the theater program at Mantua Elementary School. They put on two shows a year. So they take a few and they recruit. Like they come in and say, Amy, I need you to go find some kids for this. So that one's easy. We walk through it with the FCPS laid out internship program, which has a manual, has a partnership agreement between us, the kids, their families, as well as the business partner. And then there is a reflection process, and there are little touch bases. And then there's the externship, which isn't quite an internship, which is like the one that we have with Encore, where they recruit from us because they know her kids are coming Right, so we send them some applicants. They choose who they're going to need.

We'll do like a job site tour and we'll check in with them, but otherwise it's up to them. FCPS has a certain number of hours that you have to meet for it to be called in the system that will go on their You know paperwork, their transcript that they completed an internship. And so a lot of these don't meet that so they're just considered externships, but we're always searching for some new ones. This one with Del Rey is a full internship. It is going to meet those hour requirements. But I'm, you know, here's somebody, some pretty great students that, you know, could help out. I always go in and talk with them and see if it's paid or unpaid and then we're just really transparent with the kids and their families.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceAnd there's no grade associated with it? It's just a... No. There's also the separate,

Speaker 9like, class that's internship. That has gone through some revisions. So we have had some students in the past that have accessed that, where if they were in Kendall's fashion class and they did meet the hours for that internship, it used to be called co-op. Right. So there's that experience.

Speaker 8Where they're actually going off campus during the day to do that. And then there's also the senior internship, which is at the end of their senior year, that spring segment, that they're given a certain amount of weeks to leave school and take care of that

Speaker 9internship. And then we do have a few classes because of how CTE programming works, they do run a business, a school-based enterprise. So auto is a great example of the kids doing the work that happens during class time. But our TV and our photo students can go out on job sites. I've hired them personally for photographing events. So we do work through that process for students who are interested.

Amit HickmanIt's

Speaker 9gotten

Amit Hickmanharder and harder. Less and less kids have cars.

Speaker 9But it's a great opportunity. So I know Daniel Pasquale, who's one of our students that came down on the football field. The football team hired him for one of the games action shots. It's a great opportunity for the students to put their skills to the test and make a little money. Yeah,

Carolyn Pitchesby voicegreat. So do you guys, when you were talking about the career, do you go to like, I just got a name from the conference over at They need people. Are you guys going?

Speaker 8I go and Luke Donald, our counselor, goes. He speaks to the fact that he's a musician and then he talks about Academy and how yeah and I talk about being an actor and then I leave in and not also quickly to being a

Carolyn Pitchesby voicehero what about you want to go there you love to hear you

Kendall Barrystaffspeak about

Carolyn Pitchesby voicefashion you would love it looks taken

Speaker 9a few teachers each year

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceyes maybe you could just cut their desperate they're under they don't have

Speaker 9I've

Carolyn Pitchesby voicegone over a different year. Okay, that would be great if you reach out to her. I think that would be great. Because they did

Kendall Barrystaffused to have an upcycling column.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceYep. Oh, good. School there, yes. I

Amit Hickmanthink they have one of their learning seminar topics.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceIt's upcycling. It might be. Well, my kids were there. They had like a club. Yeah,

Amit HickmanI think it's like during the

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceseminar. Yeah, I think it is.

Amit HickmanOh, that's great.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceYeah, that would be awesome.

Sarah KelseyYeah, when you talked about your ambassadors, I will say they did an amazing job at back to school night. Like, I have never seen high schoolers, like, normally they stand around the table, like, kids were like walking up to people when they looked, well, the freshman parents, when they looked confused. And they were like, can we help you find, and it was like, this was kind of nice because it wasn't the typical adult, you know, teacher that was helping them. And I think that was kind of, you know, nice for the parents to see the kids out there helping. So I think that ambassador program is awesome. Thank you. They were very energetic with it, so that night.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceAll right, well, thank you so much for having me. the numbers I mean it's a good thing and kind of you find me building to yes

Speaker 9yeah there's an abandoned office buildings

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceyeah yeah yeah yeah

Amit HickmanOkay. Thank you.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceOkay.

Kendall BarrystaffOkay. And now we have

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceMr. Foreman who will talk about student fields. He is the city of Fairfax Community Development and Planning. Person. Expert.

Eric ForemanstaffThat's right. And I can come here in the fall too. I'm usually here in the spring. We went back

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceand forth because you used to come in the fall and then somehow it ended up in the spring.

Speaker 9You

Eric Foremanstaffknow, the main presentation has kept getting pushed back and back and back because it's taken longer to get the base information from FCPS.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceOh, that too.

Eric ForemanstaffSo, fall turned into spring.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceWhen you were speaking about student yields, if you've changed anything sort of in your process, in consideration of the economy and inflation, I'm assuming some trends have changed over the years in terms of condos and apartments and townhouses. Right.

Eric ForemanstaffAnd that's why we redo the actual yields every year. So we can account for that. What we've noticed is townhouses have become a more popular living arrangement or have generated more students over the past. I think we've been doing this for eight years or nine years. And we've seen a definite increase, probably 50% increase from newer type of town houses. 50 as in 5

Stacy Hallby voice-0?

Eric Foremanstaff50 as in 5-0. It's something that we had expected years ago, but it's actually come to fruition. With multifamily, we've seen it generally trend upwards a little bit, but we've kept our eye on the types of new multifamily development that we really get around here. And the yield ratios for that But really haven't exploded. So, you know, gone up, I'd say, from a .08 ratio, which would be eight students per hundred units, to about 12 per hundred now. That's still

Carolyn Pitchesby voicepretty significant. Yeah. Significant. Yeah. Considering how many we seem to be building. Right.

Eric ForemanstaffBut those demographic changes are why we really do like to look at it new every year. Yeah. And that's part of the issue, and with enrollment projections as well, it's gotten really complicated because demographics can change so quickly. We've got a few factors now that just weren't present ten years ago that just seemed to change rapidly in migration and out migration especially. So it makes sense to keep looking at it.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceAll right.

Eric ForemanstaffSo tonight our discussion deals with some similar topics to what we typically talk about in the spring, but not identical. So I'll just take a few moments before we begin just to go over what we're talking about tonight and how it's different from our usual discussion. We were asked to take a look at new residential development in the city, newly built residential development, and kind of summarize what might be on the horizon for us in the foreseeable future. In the, our spring presentation, typically focuses on the student generation rates, and goes into the details of calculating and all that kind of stuff. And we skim as we talk about the new buildings that might be coming online and whatnot.

Tonight's presentation is kind of a reverse of that. We're spending most of our time looking at those developments. We'll briefly touch on student yields and enrollment, because there's new material that's relevant. But really, we'll focus on development projects and what kind of student generation rates we can expect from these specific projects and also what the big topics are for student generation, just kind of in general. And I'm just happy to answer any questions in case anything comes up. But really the purpose is just to increase the board's awareness of some of these bigger development-related topics that we might see coming in the next few years. And with that, we'll see if the clicker works.

Clicker works. So we can go on and take a look at our current year enrollments. This year I think we have some unexpectedly high enrollments at some of our schools. We can see several things here. This shows all four of our schools, the dark lines are September enrollment for the last six years. And the big dot is the current year enrollment. Those light colored lines are, I think, particularly interesting. They show the projections that FCPS made last year. So the projections made last year for this year. And what's interesting is there are some significant changes in Providence in particular. So Providence is on the top left. It's the red bar. And, unexpected enrollment jump. So, between last September and this September at Providence, we saw an increase

of 63 students. Somewhere between 7 and 8 percent. And, this is a year where FCPS projected enrollment to drop. So, this is why it's a little bit surprising. Yes, it was. I don't know if anyone has an explanation for it now. It seems to be, you know, there's a lot more kindergarten, the kindergarten class is a lot bigger, but it's beyond that. It's spread out among several. The grade levels, nothing really jumped out at me as being a sole factor.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceWe did note that the Providence enrollment that went up to high was mostly city. So you have a lot of additional city goods, and obviously all of Daniel's

Eric ForemanstaffSo we'll have to wait for the address based information to come out and see if we can pick out any trends from the

Carolyn Pitchesby voicenew development. That's what I would be interested to see. I'd be

Eric Foremanstaffsurprised. I mean that number really exceeds the number of units that have come online recently.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceWe had, I think, Jeff, what was it? 250 something in August, from July to August. 200

Stacy Hallby voicewhere they'll interest.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceThat never happens. Yeah. So, and if it's a majority city, I can't imagine where else it would be. I don't know. I don't know. I'm just curious. I know. I'm curious as well. I'm trying to address check those just to see.

Eric ForemanstaffRight. So. Yeah, I'm really curious about that. So we'll get the address information. We usually get the address information itself around New Year's. So

Carolyn Pitchesby voicemaybe you can come back in the spring.

Eric ForemanstaffYes. That's right. No, this is definitely something I want to concentrate on for the spring. This is unusual. No explanation. They weren't all off. And that Daniel's run number is beautiful. I mean, that's, you know, we love to see that. It's higher than

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceit's ever been, though. Daniel's run, we've always had a lot of cushion.

Eric ForemanstaffRight. Right.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceAnd so, like, the Providence stuff were like, oh my gosh, you're going to have a number. Right. But Daniel's running is creeping up now too, which is great.

Eric ForemanstaffYeah. And really, at the middle school and high school level, we saw an increase where either the projections were relatively flat or a little bit of a decrease. Nothing percentage-wise like Providence. No,

Carolyn Pitchesby voicebut Fairfax High School was already at capacity. Right. And you know back in 2014 I believe we had the boundary change to move Fairfax Villa to Frost Woodson. We are right back where we were 10 years ago. The numbers at the high school.

Eric ForemanstaffYeah I think it was 50 students or thereabouts. an increase at the high school. Yes. But

Carolyn Pitchesby voicewe were already creeping up last year. I mean it's just you know.

Eric ForemanstaffYep. And these numbers may change a little bit. I pulled these numbers I think the first day that they were posted on FCPS website. And I checked today and some of them have actually changed a little bit. These are in carves. And And these projections are done by FCPS staff. They're not done by us. And that's tough work. They do the grade cohorts. And I looked at the grade cohort growth for Providence and still couldn't find out any pattern to the Providence growth. But it's tough stuff. And I know analyzing current enrollment isn't really what we're dealing with today. This is pretty interesting. We're not the only ones dealing with a lot of enrollment. So this chart here shows all of the elementary schools in Fairfax County,

all 140 of them, and their percent increase from last September to this September. You absolutely would not guess it by going to Providence, but out of 90,000 students at the elementary level, I think there was a gain of 30 or a drop of 30. I mean, it's crazy. about the same, you know, K through 6, or pre-K through 6. But there...

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceFCPS's growth is pretty flat.

Eric ForemanstaffYeah.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceCities was significant.

Eric ForemanstaffYeah. We're the 8th, Providence is the number 8 in enrollment growth between last year and this year. So, it's a surprise we don't want. Daniel's Run's roughly in the middle. Daniel's Run's grown a little bit, 11 students roughly in the middle of the pack, but that Providence number is...

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceI still pretend it's because all the development is on the Providence, the western part of the city.

Eric ForemanstaffIt is, and the developers heard you, and the next round will be in Daniels. Okay.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceSo me and you can start arguing. As you look at that number, it's going up. Remember, Daniels run is smaller than Providence. We don't have as much space. Right.

Eric ForemanstaffOh, I know that. We'll see as we go through each of these developments and up to a certain point you'll be saying, oh my goodness, these are all in Providence. And then at a certain point they change and they're all in Daniels Rhymes. Be careful what you wish for.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceI don't wish for any of it. Right.

Eric ForemanstaffSo this is kind of the bigger picture. This is what Chair Pitches had been talking about on the countywide level. especially at elementary level has been pretty flat. I like this for looking at the last few years of growth. This looks back to 2019. 2019 was the last normal year before COVID. And this shows enrollment by elementary, middle, and high school level, but as a percentage of the 2019 numbers. And what really jumps out is that lingering decline at the elementary and middle school levels enrollment there's no solid reason why. You know there has been a modest increase in county wide elementary and middle numbers since you know for two or three years but even so and even with recent population growth

those numbers still remain below 2019 levels. And this is county wide of course Providence had to go ahead and break that trend. It is kind of an interesting trend. Lots of reasons why this might be the case. It's interesting material.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceSo why don't we do this? Since we're moving on, anybody that has questions about enrollment? Okay. Ms. Kelsey.

Sarah KelseySo mine goes back to, and this may be Jeff or somebody else can answer too, the page two with the predictions and stuff when does FCPS actually come out with their new predictions each year

Eric Foremanstaffit's done with the CIP

Sarah Kelseyokay so more spring issues up yeah do you envision because obviously you can't really tell that they're going to think it's going to continue to go down

Eric Foremanstafffor like Providence and stuff or see that that's that's the really tricky I

Sarah Kelseyknow that's

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceI think the predictions are going to continue to

Eric Foremanstaffrise. They take the cohorts into consideration. And they also take new development, new known development. So we share development information with them for new projects that are coming online in a given year or even a year or two into the future. And they've got the similar information from Fairfax County. The big unknown is migration. And that tends to vary all over the place. And we've seen, I'm going to go ahead and forward to the secret slide at the end.

Sarah KelseySorry, I jumped ahead, obviously.

Eric ForemanstaffWell, you know, I had a feeling that a question like this, oh, and this isn't on here because it's on my PowerPoint slide.

Speaker 9Oh, do you want me to put that in?

Eric ForemanstaffYeah, if you don't mind.

Speaker 9No, not at all.

Eric ForemanstaffI'm sorry to mess with you. No, that's okay. It's

Jeff Platenbergstaffby voicesomething that is irrelevant. So while Eric's doing that, I'll just say in October and November, they try to finalize the CIP to do the first draft before the school board. They take the September 30th data, and that's what they wait on. It hasn't been totally culled yet in Clenst. Make sure the integrity of the data is reporting to the school board. And then they come forward with it. If you take a look at one of the pages in in the region 5 capacity of the current CIP For example, you can see that Fairfax High School had a projection of 2296 when we're at 23 So so there were definite discrepancies FCPS was as was stated relatively flat. We had jumped at 7.7, but overall we were 2.8 percent higher than

SCPS where their elementary level was a decrease of .4%. So when you see that disparity, we brought it, in fact, Ms. Pitches made clear for us to bring it to their attention if they didn't know. And in fact, I do believe we talked about it even in our budget games. So do the projections go off the September or the March or

Sarah Kelseythe December? September 3rd. It goes off that? Okay. Okay. So those were higher right now than normal. So hopefully.

Jeff Platenbergstaffby voiceYou should be seeing what they used to do September and then one in the spring. And they're seeing the benefit of going back to that model. Because they went away from doing a spring projection set.

Eric ForemanstaffSo this is a chart on regional demographics. And this is what elements go into the population change. And this is regional, it's all of Northern Virginia combined because this stuff is more accurate on a regional level. The green in the middle is natural increase in population which is births minus deaths. Relatively steady. You know there's not a whole lot there. The light blue is domestic migration. So people moving into Northern Virginia of the US. And what's interesting there is about 10 years ago, that turned negative throughout all of Northern Virginia. So more people started leaving Northern Virginia. That's never happened before. And you can see, after COVID, those numbers went down a lot.

The dark blue is foreign migration. So this is direct foreign migration from another country. And you can see that that number And in, you know, I've talked to some colleagues in other school systems who say that that really drives a lot of the unexpected increases. And it's true not just in schools, but in population in general. And that is just so difficult to forecast.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceAnd it also is affected by wars. Because, like, we had a huge amount of Afghani students that during that war populations where there's unrest in other countries.

Eric ForemanstaffRight. So those two migration figures both domestic and foreign which operate completely separate from each other have just become so unpredictable that all of the best methodology for projections just can be just tossed up in the air. for stuff that's impossible to forecast. So, that's the demographic slide.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceOkay. Did you have a question on enrollment? No. Okay.

Stacy Hallby voiceJust looking at the enrollment slide, and I want to make sure I'm reading it properly. So, in 2021, if we look at the high school line, dark one,

Eric ForemanstaffThere you go. This one.

Stacy Hallby voiceOh,

Eric Foremanstaffsorry.

Stacy Hallby voiceYes, this one. Sorry, I was in my paper. You know, we've had an increase there. But for the elementary school, yes, I understand that it started, you know, went down, but now it's creeping back up. So, I mean, it would seem to make sense that if we're having more kids at the high school level, presumably they would be more at the middle school and then at the elementary school. So it doesn't seem like what we're seeing, which makes me curious if we're getting more influx of kids from private school for high school or if there's some other factor that we just don't really know and may not ever know.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceRight. It could also be that the high school is mostly county kids. So the elementary schools are mostly city kids. I don't know if we can make a correlation between the two divisions. I don't know. This is a county-wide

Amit Hickmanthing, not city.

Jeff Platenbergstaffby voiceWhat we

Carolyn Pitchesby voicefound... Are you not the county or the city? This is county.

Amit HickmanThis is county. Our numbers are higher than this. Yeah, the dark

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceone is all county.

Amit HickmanOkay.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceOh, the whole thing. Oh, you're saying... Yeah, this whole thing

Jeff Platenbergstaffby voiceis county. So what was articulated was previously by county was that their belief system, right, because it wasn't valid, was that when people kept their children in private school, usually when it became high school, there was more of a desire to have a different experience prior to them going off to any post-secondary or career. No,

Stacy Hallby voiceI mean, I was a prime example of that, but that's why I was just curious, because if the county overall looks like they're dipping down, but our numbers are obviously going in the direction. it's just a thought more than anything I guess

Amit HickmanI do think also because our numbers are different right than the start like countywide it hasn't we have hit and then surpassed if you look at that first slide our three COVID numbers of

Speaker 8all three school all four schools actually now

Amit Hickmanthat I look at

Speaker 9it ever

Amit Hickmanso it is different so I'm curious because now I know all about data and coding so far. You're just going to be done with me soon. Do students get coded when they register for school? Whether they're coming in because that would be interesting to see are they coming from out of state? Are they coming from out of state? Because we don't need addresses to know where they're being coded.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceNo, I did request that information and we did get the information for the kids that had come into Providence because there was such a huge increase. It's

Amit Hickmanonly after, the first

Speaker 9day, everybody's in E1. After that is when you, like they, after that first day, that's when you start seeing those other kids. That would have been nice to know where those students came from, right? So, that's right.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceI mean, it's on

Speaker 9their

Kendall Barrystaffsheet,

Carolyn Pitchesby voicebut that's not enough. Before school starts, right, everybody is the same. Yeah.

Dan PhillipsstaffCorrect. So, summertime moves.

Amit HickmanSo we have no way of tracking. Are they coming back from private schools? Are they coming from other, like just moved into the air? Are they migrating from other countries? We have no idea.

Kendall BarrystaffI'm done. Do we have a business in my life?

Amit HickmanI think it would

Kendall Barrystaffbe, my

Amit Hickmanguess is it's unmanageable based on the number of students that are coming in at that time.

Speaker 9Yeah, I mean it is on the written sheet, your registration sheet, because we've got to know who to call for the records. Right. You know, but it's

Amit Hickmannot coded in everybody's a new one.

Stacy Hallby voiceOh,

Amit Hickmanyeah, they're A thousand records. It's not a thousand it's 63 because it's only the new students. I am just curious like it would be really I think imperative information it has because that is such a job especially based off of the difference and we need to know if this is going to continue.

Stacy Hallby voiceShe said my thoughts are a lot better. I

Amit Hickmanwill volunteer. Well, they have the...

Jeff Platenbergstaffby voiceThe

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceschools have the... When you go and register a kid, it's a form. The schools have the hard forms. They just code it into the system. But I meant the county is the one

Amit Hickmanthat collects

Carolyn Pitchesby voicethe... But not where they're coming from. Yeah, if you come before the first day of school, The county doesn't do anything. They just use everybody's code the same way. It's only if you come in. No, no, I'm saying that

Stacy Hallby voiceif they needed

Carolyn Pitchesby voicethat.

Amit HickmanThat's what I'm saying. We could. There are hard copies of it. It's just addicts. I don't want to put it. I don't want to.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceSome of them have to go through. I may just offer it 60. 60.

Sarah KelseyOkay.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceOkay. All right.

Sarah KelseyMr. Forman. Okay. We'll take two seconds. Yes. And your special charter, your secret charter. Is that also include students that were maybe their families were State Department? They were overseas and then they came back? Or is it just?

Eric ForemanstaffNo, that's actually, if you look at the raw data, which scarily enough comes from the Internal Revenue Service, because the IRS knows where everybody lives. They actually have a separate category for domestic migration that's called foreign. And it's that kind of situation. So that would be more than domestic. Definitely includes military and government employees. I've always been unclear to what extent private individuals who move to another country and then move back or in that or else wise. State Department and military are definitely considered domestic.

Sarah KelseyOkay. Thank you.

Eric ForemanstaffOkay. Student generation, you all may be familiar with this chart because we discussed it in May. Still worth going over here, student generation, and this is just the most important aspect in looking at future development impacts boils down to the number of enrolled students per housing unit. And this is a big ingredient in our fiscal impact estimates that we provide to city council. The superintendent provides an impact statement on some big developments as well. And this is where it all comes from. We generate ratios for various housing unit types. We arrange these types among housing units or neighborhoods that have similar characteristics. you see detached, townhouse, multifamily. We separate them into established and

recent. And it occurred to me when I was putting this together, in our May discussion, I know one of the board members said that recent really isn't recent anymore because these things can be 30 years old. And I thought I had until May to come up with a new clever term for that. So you'll have to I can bear with reason for one more slide. I haven't come up with that yet. But we measure this by the ratio. So the older established detached neighborhoods on the left have a ratio of 0.39 so that means 39 students on average per 100 housing units. And I'm going over this quickly because we've touched on this before but you can see the difference between those newer type of developments that we call recent and established.

Multifamily is even more interesting because you have the division between garden-style apartments and modern apartments and also the division between rental apartments and condos. And both of those are significant. But this is important because when we're looking at projecting student enrollment for new developments, we want to get as accurate as possible. So it's not accurate to just look at multi-family and say oh wow there's 25 students per 100 when you're really looking at a type of development that just isn't made anymore. So we do this to try to narrow down what we use for our projections as much as possible. And every year we come up with these revised student generation ratios. So this is the ratio that changes

every year. And this chart shows the major new types of market rate housing that we tend to see. So for a new detached development, not that we get that many of them, the ratio would be about .22 or .23. Townhouses, for new townhouse developments we would expect about one student for every five. Housing units, and this third one down here is really the most important due to the kind of development we're seeing for new rental apartments. We tend to see, I'd say, between 10 and 12 or so students per 100 housing units for new rental apartments. Condos are way, way lower. And, you know, we kind of factor in the fiscal impact analysis. we factor about a quarter usually of the apartment ratio. Even that tends to be high in a lot of cases.

I'm always hesitant to make that number too low because that condo rate, a lot of it depends on how many of those condominiums are owner-occupied versus rented out. That's just not something you can predict. But as we'll see in a few slides, those numbers really tend to be low. Can

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceyou speak a little bit to how these ratios, these yields have changed over the last, let's say, five years? I

Eric Foremanstaffthink they've gone, you know, especially that apartment rate has gone up over the last five years. I want to say that maybe five years ago that was about a .10. And we come up with that number, not just looking at the apartments in our city, a collection of comparables that's fairly close. Most of them are districted to Fairfax High School, but at least fairly close to the city. And I'd say we have about six or seven big apartment complexes. Together it's all about 1,500 units or so. And we average those all out together to come up with that .12.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceYeah, I do recall I used to have a slide that showed some of those.

Eric ForemanstaffRight. And we show how it goes up and down things with the apartments, and it kind of goes in with the unpredictability of enrollment forecasts, is with rental apartments, since a big proportion of the tenants tend to move in and move out every year, we tend to see that number go up and go down with these comparables a lot more than you would expect with owner-occupied housing units.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceWhat do I assume with mortgage rates being as high as they are, and just overall, the economy fluctuation, the numbers in those types of housing units will fluctuate along with that. Right.

Eric ForemanstaffSo, there are just a few important details to think about with these ratios. When we talk about .12 ratio or something, we're talking about all students who live in the city, so a certain percentage of city resident students go to other schools, so 5, 6, 7 percent or so. So this includes everything from a fiscal standpoint. That second point, when we look at it, we really look at what we we call it a stabilized year. So a lot of these developments don't generate their, you know, the ratio that you would expect in their first few years of operation. So if you look at townhouses, for instance, frequently a townhouse development will be occupied and you'd have only a handful of students in the first few years. And then really after 10

years or so you see a more stabilized ratio and that's those numbers that we tend to look different, but even those tend to go up a lot. The ratios do change over time, so that's my way of avoiding being wrong because, you know, if I check back in ten years, I can say, well, those ratios go up. They do change over time, and that's important. The small sample sizes, you know, we frequently will have a development, let's say, we've had a few developments over the past few years of townhouses where we've had a few families with three children each living in a few housing units, and that drives that ratio way, way up, but it doesn't mean that necessarily all new townhouses are going to be that high, so always something to be aware of.

This chart sort of sets the stage for the rest of our discussion on specific new developments, and a version of this is in the city's fact book. if you're familiar with the fact book. I've talked about this I think in May as well, but this shows the number of housing units built in Fairfax City by decade and the type of housing unit up there at the key. And that's what you keep an eye on is those two right hand charts. These are the important ones from the end shows the housing units that have been built so far in this decade. The far right chart shows the housing units that are currently either under construction or have otherwise been already approved by city council. So this isn't just theoretical, these are ones that have actually been approved.

Two things really jump out. I mean, one, you take a look at that 2020 to 2024 chart. that bar, that's only half a decade, that's five years. That bar is bigger than any 20 year period that you could piece together since the 1960s. So this is an enormous amount of development that is happening in a very short amount of time. And the other thing is that chart is all orange. So there's a very heavy emphasis on multifamily. Virtually all of the development from a numerical standpoint that we're seeing is multifamily. So those are two important trends. You know, you look at that giant number, that giant number of course increases our population, increases demand for services, increases traffic, roughly proportional to the number of housing units. Student generation isn't quite so clear

because those multi-family units could have a lot less student generation than other units. So that's, you know, but then again, that number is so big.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceSo the non-student generating, would that be things like the flats?

Eric ForemanstaffYes. Yeah, the flats are college student-oriented development and senior housing. So, you have a handout of this. But this puts all of the developments that are in the next handful of slides onto a map. It shows it by projects that have been approved, projects that have been filed in the development projects, or projects that we would consider potential, which is being almost filed. Talked about publicly, but almost filed. shows the number of housing units and the type of units whether it's multi family, town house, or so on. Gives an overview of what we're seeing and the locations, the background color is the elementary school founders. So it's a ton of information that this is for your reference. Any questions on the map?

Yeah,

Carolyn Pitchesby voicelet's see questions.

Stacy Hallby voiceI'll start with actions. I just want to ask, duplexes, are those treated as townhouses when it comes to comparative numbers, or is that under a different category?

Eric ForemanstaffYou know, there's, yeah, there's not too many duplexes. I think that one down there, we've treated them as detached.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceWhat about Ardmore? Those are all duplexes. How do we treat those?

Eric ForemanstaffWell, Ardmore has a pretty high student generation rate. So it's higher than almost all. But

Carolyn Pitchesby voicedo you classify that as a townhouse?

Eric ForemanstaffFor these purposes, I classify it as detached. And I usually say detached slash townhouse. If we were to get a new duplex development like Ardmore, I'd really have to think about that. Because that's the kind of thing, the student generation ratio tends to go up for lower priced housing units and aging. Yeah. So that would be a tough one. It's not a format that we typically see. More common these days is that 2 over 2. Right. And the 2 over 2's have really been all over the place too. Because I've looked at those kind of developments elsewhere in Fairfax County. Some of them have really high student generation rates. And some of them don't. I've never been able to figure out exactly why. We haven't seen that many students from Mount Vineyard yet.

We've made Oak Knolls have a huge field.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceSo

Eric ForemanstaffI classify those when we get those proposals as townhouses. Because that seems to

Stacy Hallby voicebe...

Eric ForemanstaffOh duplexes, I would treat you single family homes. I would count as townhouses.

Stacy Hallby voiceThank

Amit Hickmanyou. Lose estimate math. If I was to take your student generation for new housing and multiply it by the numbers of units and all these things, we could get somewhat of an idea of what might be coming in based on what's been approved and filed in.

Eric ForemanstaffYes, and those are slides kind of summarize all of that. And this, you know, this ends at potential. There's another wave of development of properties where a property owner or developer has expressed some kind of interest in redeveloping. It's just not something that's been discussed publicly. Those tend to change a lot. So just keep in mind that it doesn't end with this. It's a cycle that kind of keeps going.

Amit HickmanAnd I haven't looked ahead, but you do split into condos versus apartments later on.

Eric ForemanstaffAnd that's kind of a thorny issue because, I mean, most of the, right now the apartment market is very hot, the condo market a little bit less so. But when a development is approved, it's approved based on the physical structure of it. And it can switch between apartment and townhouse before it's built.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceAnd it can be approved, Eric, and never amount to anything. Like Layton Hall is

Eric Foremanstaffapproved

Carolyn Pitchesby voicefor years. Right. And the owner could not gain financing. And then I assume that's still sort of a plot dead in the water. Right. There's a lot of questions.

Sarah KelseyNo.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceMs. Kelsey.

Sarah KelseyYeah. So I know this is kind of thinking bigger picture too. So this just shows obviously what is going to affect Providence and Daniel's run. Is there a map or anything that would show KJ's boundary and Fairfax High School's boundary to see what new developments are coming in for them as well? Because we have county kids in those. that, because that, I mean, with them already being at capacity, it's, you know, if there's a lot of development coming in, we need to take that into consideration for the future and stuff.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceSo we do

Sarah Kelseyget notified of that development. We do, but I was just wondering, it's nice to see it on this pretty map that I didn't know if there was a map or something like that. It's around,

Carolyn Pitchesby voicewe looked at the bound, how to map up the boundaries we could possibly get.

Eric ForemanstaffYeah, I had I talked about that a little bit in May, but without the map, when I come back in the spring, I can have that equivalent information in the map. It's not quite as easy for us to be in. It doesn't have to be a map.

Sarah KelseyI'm just curious to see.

Eric ForemanstaffYeah, that makes sense.

Sarah KelseyBecause I mean we get the emails you know, but it's sporadic and then it's like oh, where does that one go with that? Right. I could definitely do that. I know some of the area, but not the

Carolyn Pitchesby voicewhole area. It's pretty wide reaching. It goes all the way up to Clifton Road. Yeah. And then all the way to Woodson. Yeah, it feeds

Stacy Hallby voicein the system.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceIt's a pretty big, a lot of it's going on though around the Flint Hill area. I'm coming

Sarah Kelseyover there. I was just curious because with us being already.

Kendall BarrystaffThey have to leave,

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceso I'm not really worried. They're going to be the ones that leave.

Kendall BarrystaffAlright,

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceis everybody ready to... Okay.

Eric ForemanstaffSo, for most of the rest of the presentation we can cycle through these developments that are on that map. Glad to answer any questions. If I know them I'll answer them. The actual development planning isn't what I do, but I'm familiar enough with these to be able to answer some questions. I think these are the two most interesting developments to talk about because these two these are apartment complexes. They've been recently built. As of this year they're fully occupied. So Scout on the Circle on the left and the Moxley which Ms. Hall just reminded me or just told me. It was renamed. I think it was renamed today. I had never heard that before. What is it called now? It's now called the Point Head of Fairfax.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceI didn't know that. I did know we were signed to the students out of it. We weren't going to get any students out of the box.

Eric ForemanstaffOh yeah, not

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceat all. It

Eric Foremanstaffwould appeal

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceto young professionals

Eric Foremanstaffand

Carolyn Pitchesby voicedownsizing

Eric Foremanstaffthe seniors. We have

Carolyn Pitchesby voicea whole class.

Eric ForemanstaffYeah, so these are interesting because we had been anticipating these for a long time and they're both online so we can kind of see how this new style of apartment looks in real life. You know, the general rule of thumb that I tell people is to expect one student per 10 apartment units. it's a nice even number. In reality at some point again that stabilized year we would expect it to be a little bit more. This information down here as far as the number of students is from last year because we don't have this year's address information. But that said, last year we had 44 students out of 400 apartments at Scalvin Circle. Last September the Moxley was not fully leased. but we still had 21 students from about 300 or 320.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceSo if we have 83 more units that are now occupied, what do you, how many?

Eric ForemanstaffI'd expect that number to be at least 30.

Amit HickmanAdam, Jay? Yes. So, okay. Say 30 students came out of it, but we know Daniel's run didn't go up by 30 students. I think that might answer your question somewhat to Fairfax and KJ, right? That there's, we can't, you know, for how many students, so maybe it's like a third goes to each of the areas or something.

Eric ForemanstaffEach of the schools?

Amit HickmanYeah, right.

Eric ForemanstaffI'd say about half are at the elementary level. Okay. Because we tend to, with apartments in general, we tend to have a younger age structure with students.

Amit HickmanOkay.

Eric ForemanstaffYeah.

Amit HickmanI'm just trying, again, I'm trying to figure out

Eric ForemanstaffYeah, that's right. And you know, I'm absolutely going to try to figure that out. Thank you for

Kendall Barrystaffthe training.

Eric ForemanstaffYeah, that's right. And the migration issue with apartments, and by migration I don't mean immigration, I mean migration is people moving in and out. With apartments it's just really, really sick. So, the big story really is that these yield ratios are generally what we had expected. Again, we had looked at this cohort of similar developments and we had talked about it being in this range when these apartment complexes became fully leased and it's generally what we would have expected. So, good news is it's what we would have this is a lot of students.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceI guess I just felt that when we talked about the means, I remember when these were approved and then they were being built, newer apartments tend to not have, there's barely any student yield. It's when they age, five to ten years, you start to see a lot of kids. Like Oak Noll's had a ton of kids that came out of that. Fairbanks Garden Department's had a lot of kids. Cardinal floor departments.

Eric ForemanstaffThat kind of surprised me too. And I don't know if the reason is that these aren't as upscale as most newer apartments might be. And that might be the reason. It might be more cost reasonable than what we had expected. Or it might be because the demographics have changed. and kind of like what you insinuated earlier, that apartment living has become more attractive in the past few years. That did surprise me that we got up to these kinds of ratios that quickly. So we can take a look at a few developments that are currently under construction. The biggest of these is Boulevard 6. So this is the former Paul VI high school site. This includes a few aspects. It includes townhouses, includes condos, and includes a handful of single-family homes.

So there's a few interesting things here. So one, we can see that big difference between apartments and condominiums because we saw with Scout and the Moxley that we would get one student for every 10 housing units or so. We have a condo unit that has 144 students. I'm not sure that we had any enrollment at all

Carolyn Pitchesby voicelast year. Those condos are much more expensive. So that's where I think that you're not going to see kids.

Eric ForemanstaffAnd that pretty much tracks with the other newer condos that we've seen. Ones on Pickett Road. Also something of this size would generate one or possibly is just an enormous difference between condominiums.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceThe single family homes at Lyme McLean and Cedar right there. I assume that two to three student number is inaccurate at this point.

Eric ForemanstaffI don't know. None of them were occupied last year. Right. So,

Carolyn Pitchesby voicenow they

Stacy Hallby voiceare. All but one are. That was sold. They just haven't moved in yet. And we saw a number of kids there when we were. Oh, is that right?

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceYeah. Okay. So, I'm wondering if some those kids would be probably. Right.

Stacy Hallby voiceWell, yeah, a lot of them do at private school.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceYeah.

Eric ForemanstaffThe townhouses here are 115 units. Most of them are occupied now. I wouldn't expect anywhere near that 20 students any time in the next few years. I think our experience with that ramp up period with townhouses is pretty long. So there are a few other developments that are under construction right now. The one on the left here is the Northfax development. Northfax consists also of two units over two sections. Part of it is senior living which is non-student generating and And then we have 56 townhouses here. They're in various stages being built now. I think 10 of them are sold as of now. So this year I wouldn't expect. What's that?

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceSo in Norfolk's, 10 of the 56 are

Eric Foremanstaffsold.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceI think we met one child so far and home school.

Eric ForemanstaffOh, all right. That's

Stacy Hallby voicea really answer. It sounds like there were not a ton of kids yet.

Eric ForemanstaffYeah, that's interesting. Is that from going door to door? That's a good way to do it. It's valuable intelligence. You can't get otherwise. Yeah, so ten have been sold. I wouldn't expect very much of the students this year. We'll see about it. The future, the one on the right is the small development of duplexes into single family homes near Arden and that is currently under construction now. I don't think any of these are sold.

Stacy Hallby voiceWhere is that? I can't picture where that is.

Eric ForemanstaffIt's on West Drive. So if you can picture the property yard, there was a property across West Drive.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceIt's

Speaker 9just that one little

Carolyn Pitchesby voicesection that's still Daniel's. It's a tiny little section.

Eric ForemanstaffYeah, and it is Daniel's rod.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceRight, right. That's Daniel's. Okay. High-year section. There we

Eric Foremanstaffgo.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceDaniel's run side. Six units of Daniel's run side.

Amit HickmanRight. Cornel's and Posa. No. I mean. Look

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceat Cornel's

Amit Hickmanand Posa and Davies properties.

Kendall BarrystaffYeah,

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceDavies

Kendall Barrystaffproperties are never getting built. So

Carolyn Pitchesby voicethey've had a million, the amount of applications that have gone through the Davies property in the

Eric Foremanstafflast few years. That's improved to four or five.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceYeah.

Amit HickmanThey've never fought. Don't worry about it. I do have another question though. Lamb Center, Wesley, is it probably impossible to predict, right?

Eric ForemanstaffI don't think so. That's billed as so-called supportive housing.

Kendall BarrystaffRight.

Eric ForemanstaffYou know, for people.

Amit HickmanOh, they're not allowed?

Eric ForemanstaffYeah. So it's allowed.

Kendall BarrystaffThat's the

Eric Foremanstaffanswer. Now, it's not built yet, but what the plans are are mostly studios. Yeah.

Amit HickmanYeah.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceThat

Amit Hickmanis the answer to my question. You're welcome. This

Eric Foremanstaffis by

Carolyn Pitchesby voicemy

Eric Foremanstaffhouse. Yep, so this is the other one now under construction. This is where the breezeway and Fairfax Gardens once was. This is interesting for two reasons. One is the makeup. We've got the townhouses and then those two over twos. And again, I estimated those two over twos as being townhouse for student purposes. So, we'll see what that turns out to be. Also interesting because of the development of the place. So, Fairfax Gardens, I think 38 units. Yeah, we

Carolyn Pitchesby voicehad like 50 something kids on

Eric Foremanstaffour place. Yeah. There was a lot of students from that. So, this is, and this is not unusual in the case of redevelopment and we see more units but probably less enrollment from from the new units because that

Carolyn Pitchesby voicewas affordable housing those of those which is like yeah It's a slightly different one. No, it's not $900,000 or it's yeah for a townhouse.

Eric ForemanstaffSo we can switch those units under construction. The next batch of them that we're talking about are ones that have already been approved. Most big developments in the city need city council approval. In one way or another, most of these are rezonings. So it's important to keep in mind, sometimes when you hear of a potential project, just because something's been proposed doesn't necessarily mean that it will be approved or that it will be approved in the format it's being proposed. But a lot of them are, so it's worth talking about. These next received City Council approval. So they can be built this way. The first one of these, this was approved by City Council back in July. This is on the grounds of the Willowood

office complex. So from everything I can tell, this is a typical apartment building. It has a unit mix of 6% affordable housing, which is what the city now requires for multi-family development. That's, Fairfax County has required that for quite a while so that's kind of built into our methodologies as far as looking at the comparables. So I would apply our standard ratio to this so 260 apartment units. I think it's a typical unit mix as far as bedrooms. I'd say about 30, I have 32 here students out of this. And this is one of those interesting contrasts. This is a condo project that's been approved just west of downtown. It's on Main Street. 79 condo units. So, this is kind of the equivalent of

that Paul VI, Bolzard VI condo complex. I expect very minimal student development from this. It's a condo. It's build as being upscale. We'll see if it really is built. But, I'd say this would be very low as far as student generation. Moving on to some townhouses, these were approved last year. This is building 13 townhouses on a one acre lot in Westmore. It's in Westmore but it's replacing a commercial development so this is new, net new as far as residential. Again, pretty standard for townhouses. Townhouses are so easy, I mean a townhouse is a townhouse, so you don't have to worry about unit mix or anything unusual. So I would say this one student per five townhouse ratio, two to three students from this.

So it says here this ratio does not include affordable units. Affordable townhouses are really a different animal altogether than the student generation. We do have one of these that's been approved. This is a Habitat for Humanity approved back in 2022 for the grounds of the Fairfax Presbyterian Church, has 10 committed affordable housing units, affordable townhouses. We talked about affordable townhouses a few years ago at the school board. Jurisdictions that take a look at that separately, jurisdictions that have a lot of this kind of development see a much higher student generation rate from committed affordable units of great units. We kind of conservatively estimated twice. Yeah,

Carolyn Pitchesby voicethat's really conservative.

Eric ForemanstaffThat is conservative.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceThis is very conservative.

Eric ForemanstaffI

Carolyn Pitchesby voicewould say we're going to see 10 to 20 kids out

Eric Foremanstaffof there. I wouldn't be surprised because households that get approved for this kind of development need the space. You know, the trouble is we didn't have anything other than just our own sense of that to really go on. So the two times I think it's too conservative. You might think it's too conservative too it probably is. But we just didn't have any data to actually back that one up.

Stacy Hallby voiceDo you know how many bedrooms they are by chance?

Eric ForemanstaffI don't. I think there

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceare three bedrooms. That was what I was looking

Stacy Hallby voicefor.

Eric ForemanstaffI would assume it's three.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceI think there are three. They might maybe, yeah, I thought about.

Eric ForemanstaffAnd construction has not started on this yet. They, I think, anticipate having a groundbreaking ceremony soon. Or maybe they did. They had the ground breakers. They had it recently. But the city had to issue them a lot of emails saying, you know, don't imply that the groundbreaking actually means that your permits have been approved because they haven't. That's why it was just shovel. Yes. So that will still wait. So we can move on to the types of projects that we call filed or potential projects. So these are projects that have been talked about publicly, so meaning they've been talked about at a city council meeting, at a planning commission meeting of some sort. But these projects have not yet been approved by city council.

So, again, all of these need approval, mostly for rezoning. So these are not, they can't go from this stage to being built without city council approval. So that is important to keep in mind. They may be withdrawn. We've seen some of these withdrawn on occasion. City council has all kinds of discretion with these as far as altering the site plan or the approval. So I mention that because I just don't want to give a false impression in any way. But that said, there's a lot of these pending applications. Add up all of these together that we're talking about tonight, it's 1,500 units. So right now in our city, we have about 10,000 or 11,000 units in total. So in the next five minutes, we'll be talking about projects that would add 15% of the number of housing units to the city.

So this is discretion or no discretion, this is a lot of units. I won't dwell too much on the details of these as far as individual projects, but we'll just kind of talk about the general types of housing units that are proposed in the student generation that we might see. The one here on the left, this is proposed for the building near Fairfax Circle that used to house the Lottie Plaza. supermarket. This is a commercial to residential development. So that's significant because it's adding new residential units in an area where it's not a redevelopment of an existing residential development. This is that new. That's where the Arty's is. Yeah, it's right next to the Arty's.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceWhat's that? The strip mall, is this just going where the Lottie is?

Eric ForemanstaffSo the Lottie is its own parcel. So it's owned by a different owner than the shopping center. Makes it very complicated. It's actually been complicated for a long time because there's this whole web of easements that go through the properties for access and parking. It's really kind of a mess.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceYeah. There's an old 7-Eleven that's closed over there, too.

Eric ForemanstaffRight, and that's a separate parcel as well. So this is only on that body building. And this is 10 stories high. So what's proposed now, it says 261 apartments. That building is 10 stories high. So that's amazing.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceYeah,

Eric Foremanstaffthey have to get approval for it. And, you know, there's probably a lot of access issues and other things, but this is the proposal. Now, the one on the right here, it's a similar size building, it's actually larger in terms of units. This is proposed for the current site of Courthouse Plaza Shopping Center. This is where the Safeway is. The developer is proposing to tear down a portion of that shopping center and build the apartments. I think it will have commercial on the ground floor. But again, it's a net increase of 300 some apartment units. Also commercial to residential and that's a big theme. So here we are at the property. Nobody's holding our breath on this one. I've lost track of this. It was apartments and then it was senior

housing and then it was townhouses and then it was apartments again. Now it's more apartments. It's an awkward

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceproperty.

Eric ForemanstaffAwkward property. And And right now the proposal is for 276 apartments. So if you go back, I mean, these last few, 261, 315, 276, it's all kind of the same size, but they're all about 30 students from what we do. Anticipate, this one on the right is another commercial to residential conversion. It's called Gatewood Plaza. It's on Fairfax Boulevard. It's one of the brick 1980s office buildings that's on Fairfax Boulevard next to the Toyota station.

Stacy Hallby voiceLike Red Lobster?

Eric ForemanstaffYeah, a few lots down from Red Lobster.

Stacy Hallby voiceCloser to

Carolyn Pitchesby voice123 now?

Eric ForemanstaffNo, other direction. Okay.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceLike the contemporary furniture place.

Eric ForemanstaffNo, other.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceI

Eric Foremanstaffknow, it just

Carolyn Pitchesby voicesounds funny. I'm sorry. So the other.

Eric ForemanstaffIf you can imagine going down Eaton Place, the dead ends in Fairfax Boulevard, turn left, and then this property is on the right, one or two properties.

Sarah KelseySo it's Red Lobster and the hotel, and then the toilet place, and then there's an empty one. Oh, the front right. Yes, that's it. It's like a pretty empty one.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceOh, I know where it is. Yes. Oh, right like the firehouse. It's sort of like at the light between the crab house.

Eric ForemanstaffRight. Yes. Yes, that's it. So this is kind of an interesting one because this is what I'd call a non-standard development. The current proposal, and again this can change, but the current proposal is mostly for one bedroom or studio units. If that holds true, even with 300 units, I wouldn't expect a whole lot of student generation from that. Who's that marketing store? That's a good question. Like who's

Amit Hickmanbuying these on bedrooms?

Eric ForemanstaffCollege kids. I don't know if it's something that will be explicitly marketed to college students.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceI

Eric Foremanstaffdon't know. We'll

Amit Hickmanput this with the Davies property.

Eric ForemanstaffAnd this one, City Council has been briefed on this by the developer. It didn't receive a whole lot of enthusiasm. part of the reason it didn't receive a lot of enthusiasm is it's replacing a currently well-functioning office building. So it's hard I think from a policy perspective to get on board with that it's not in one of the high activity centers. There's a lot of issues with it. But as it is now, if it's really going to be building studios in one bedroom I wouldn't see a whole lot of students from there. That could change. And there's a few others too that are in the public process. We talked about the apartments at Willowood. There's another development that's planned for the other end of the Willowood apartment complexes. Or

Willowood office complex. This is proposing And I estimate about 10 students from

Jeff Platenbergstaffby voicethat if it gets old.

Eric ForemanstaffAnd a small one over here on the right. And this is the section where students are actually going to Daniels Ronan. We haven't forgotten about Daniels Ronan. This is a fairly standard townhouse development that's proposed for the Mantua office complex which is on Pickett Road.

Amit HickmanIs that close to where the new school is?

Eric ForemanstaffYes. Yeah, that's right

Stacy Hallby voiceby face.

Eric ForemanstaffRight, yes.

Stacy Hallby voiceThank you.

Eric ForemanstaffAnd last one here, this is a potential application so it's at an earlier stage than the others. This is for another apartment complex, again about the same size. We forecast about 30 students or so. This is at the intersection of Fairfax Blvd. and Chainbridge Road where one of the gas stations is now. The current proposal is for 271. So that is kind of all of the development. And again, there are There are others that are likely to be filed soon. If you see or hear of additional filings in the next month or two, it's not because I forgot about them. It's because these are always coming in. These can change, new ones can be added and so forth. Actually, it's not quite the end because this is Layton Hall.

Layton Hall. This is a perennial guest of ours at school board meetings. Because I feel obliged to talk about it because it really would have a big impact on students. And this is one of those cases. If it does get billed the number of units would go way up. But there are so many students who are in the Clayton Hall right now. Student generation would go down. So, but But again, I wouldn't hold my breath that this would be built anytime soon. But this is entitled. So this is received council approval. So the property owner could build this at any time. And that's the reason that I keep it on here. Because the property owner can sell the property and the new owners can build this. It is. You're

Stacy Hallby voicejust the messenger. We know that.

Eric ForemanstaffYes. So these are the concluding slides. So these really summarize what we've talked about but without the nice graphics. So there's some graphics people, there's some charts people this is for the charts people. And this also kind of ties things together. Hopefully it can serve as a quick reference. So this chart looks at the projects that would be occupied immediately. So this is the stuff that's under construction now. These are partially occupied. That's our expected yield from the new units that have not been occupied yet. Over there, that very right hand side that says, yes, these are the elementary schools. These are both Providence. So, I'd say a total of 15 students just from Boulevard 6 and Northbacks, which are currently under construction.

Amit HickmanBut not 15 students for the elementary schools. Yes, no, that's correct. I know, I'm just trying to reframe it because of the P next to it. Yeah,

Eric Foremanstaffso 15 students from a budgetary standpoint, from a fiscal standpoint, and not necessarily immediately after.

Amit HickmanWell, and I think the issue is what we're having is capacity, right? Right, yes. And it's almost impossible to do so. Right.

Eric ForemanstaffThese are those projects that have already been approved by City Council. And so we can see adding them all up would be about 50, 54 units. And again, most of these would be Providence as well. And these are the potential developments. So these are the ones that have not so far. And this is where it all switches over to Daniel's one. That is. And

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceand

Eric Foremanstaffthis,

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceyou know,

Eric Foremanstaffthere are just so many apartment complexes right now. And that's where that big student generation number comes from. It's a lot of units, but even with a relatively low generation rate, you know, .10 or .12 you know, you would still, assuming these are all built vendor departments with an expected unit mix. You know, we would expect over 100.

Amit HickmanAnd if Moxley, whatever

Eric Foremanstaffpoint,

Amit Hickmanplace, and scouting several any indication, it's likely even higher than that.

Eric ForemanstaffRight. So, that is it. I've run out of new developments to talk about. I apologize.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceThere's only... Okay. Alright. Does Kelsey give you any other questions? No. Is this all in?

Stacy Hallby voiceNo. I do. Just very quick, man. I feel like previously you provided us with the number of students that actually are generated in each neighborhood. Yes.

Eric ForemanstaffYou have

Carolyn Pitchesby voicethe one

Stacy Hallby voicethat goes

Carolyn Pitchesby voicelike...

Eric ForemanstaffRight. Yes. And I... The spring

Stacy Hallby voicemeeting one?

Eric ForemanstaffYeah, because we don't have that updated number. Okay. So, what What you all had for the spring meeting is still the most current.

Stacy Hallby voiceOkay, I looked at that one.

Eric ForemanstaffOh, no, okay. I can always send that again.

Stacy Hallby voiceIt's currently strewn in my office floor because I like to just ask. Okay, I'm

Eric Foremanstaffglad that you did. Because my desk

Stacy Hallby voiceis covered.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceMs. Higman?

Amit HickmanNo, thank you for answering. I apologize.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceSo

Amit Hickmanwe

Carolyn Pitchesby voicewill see him get in the spring. Yes. Hopefully there will be any new approval.

Eric ForemanstaffI can't promise. One way or another. But I'm always happy to answer questions as well. Go through the superintendent or any way to reach me. I'm happy

Stacy Hallby voiceto. Do you want to present to council again?

Eric ForemanstaffAbout what?

Stacy Hallby voiceWe usually do some sort of presentation. We used to invite council to our

Carolyn Pitchesby voicemeeting and they never come.

Eric ForemanstaffYeah, I haven't done, I think I did one year do this, or not this, but.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceRemember they came.

Eric ForemanstaffOh, okay, that's right, right. So the council doesn't hear this? But

Stacy Hallby voiceyou presented at council a few months

Eric Foremanstaffago. I do present at council. I don't present the school enrollment. I mean, I can.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceI think we've had like David Meyer, Dan McMayer, and maybe a couple of them.

Amit HickmanI feel like this is imperative information.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceThat's why we've heard of them.

Amit HickmanOr maybe put

Carolyn Pitchesby voicea corset on them, like go to them.

Amit HickmanOr maybe it could be done. Maybe you should just add

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceit to your...

Amit HickmanJust throw it in at the end.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceThrow it in. Thank you, Mr.

Amit HickmanMeyer.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceYou bet. Okay, so we have one more presentation and that's facilities update. Mr. Phillips. All right. Give us one second to get loaded there.

Amit HickmanThank you for the opportunity to just update the board. It's just empty. Sorry, it was my fault. I had chocolate.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceGo ahead.

Dan PhillipsstaffBarbara, if you want to, you go ahead and go to the third slide. We'll just cut to the chase here a little bit. So our facilities update. No, thank you. And since the last work session we had last school year, with the board support, we've completed a bunch of projects. We've been very busy this summer, as you know already. And I'll just go through some of these quickly, and I'll give you an opportunity for any questions you might have. to sort of look at the pictures to go along with what I've got to share, but certainly slow me down if I start going too fast. We worked with the, you know, during the, with all of these projects, it's often threading needles. You know, so between the end of the school year, beginning of the

school year, between sports seasons, just finding those pockets where we can do as much as we possibly can to update the building to keep them in good shape. So, we worked with principals to schedule tile and carpet total classrooms between the two schools. Typically we've done about eight, so we've stepped that up a little bit. And we did that in the window between summer school, summer camp, and the return of teachers. So a really, really short period of time. In about seven days we did twelve classrooms. And they look great, and teachers certainly love those. We planned, purchased, installed, wired, and fenced in a new temporary press box in time for Small Falls Sports. You know about that one already. We worked

with the former principal at Katherine Johnson Middle School to complete their weight exercise room, actual classes that actually frees up enough space for two full classes to be in that small room and out of the gym. So we're putting some of the pressure there. And we worked with Fairfax High School to get new lighting, and I'm sorry, Fairfax County Public Schools to get new lighting installed in the auto tech class. And we're still working on the flooring part. Next slide. Fairfax County accepted our request to refinish the tennis courts at Fairfax High School. So those were done over the summer. We worked with FCPS again to have new HVAC units installed in the Fieldhouse at Fairfax High School. So, for

the events there, it'll be a lot more comfortable for our families and students. We added a curb cut transition from the parking lot to the band room to assist with their moving in and out of equipment, you know, multiple times a day. And then there was a lot of fencing that went into the area around the concession stand during the construction, after the construction, kind of until the point where we put in the new press box. There's some temporary fencing that'll be up. It took a lot of figuring just to keep it safe and the ability to close it off when we need it to. I'll keep pulling through here. We completed the final touches on the new turf fields and also you see the red curb. So this is a dual action slide there. Fairfax City

changed the requirements for the curb from yellow to red. We were due to pain anyway, and so when we were one of the first, you'll notice around the city that's happened a lot, a lot of places now but we were one of the first groups to get it done. So all the new coverage, and there'll be new information going home to parents just asking that they people have tended to forget that the yellow men don't park. So hopefully that's at least what we're hearing from the fire marshal, hopefully the red will draw attention to it again. We, the sign and signal department helped us in Fairfax City helped us with some new signage of Providence Kissin' Ride. You can see that sign. We worked with Public Works and Parks and Recreation

to install a new water meter right outside the office at Providence and then FCPS rebuilt a crumbling sewer drain on the Fairfax High School property. You want me to slow down there? Bart can go to the next slide. Thank you very much. Our biggest project of the summer was the Fairfax High School Stadium concession stand. Barb, you can just go to the next one if you would again. So it was really exciting to see it develop as we worked to thread that needle between the end of one school year and the start of the next. Construction began on June 17th as scheduled. The contractor ran into unexpected issues underground. They found some electrical wires where they were expecting drainage. Drainage was there also

but some electrical wires they weren't expecting. They also worked with our request. some from us directly for the HVAC units and also for Parks and Recreation for the Fourth of July celebration. And then also they worked with the school throughout the late summer and early fall for sports practices and things like that. So they kept working, and you'll see some more slides about that in a second. Probably if you go to the next one. And the project was substantially completed a couple weeks after fall sports began. We hoped it would be done for the first home football game, but we ended up being really thankful that we planned ahead and that the awesome team at Fairfax High School would make sure

that the old concession stand and restrooms were fully functional just in case we ended up needing them. But we knew back in May that it was a possibility. So we planned at that point for like what happens if. And so we were ready and the team at Fairfax was like they were with us the whole summer. Talking to the contractor was also awesome. It's just good to get, in fact as I was driving over today, I heard that they were installing the replacement. They put the temporary heaters in to meet the Fairfax County requirement of October 15th and they were putting the new ones in today. So I don't know if they finished but that should be done this week. And they'll be a little less hazardous for our taller friend.

Slide number nine, next slide. I know that we were all grateful when the project was completed and it was exciting to see it finish. The finished product in action, certainly now seeing people in line buying snacks. I just want to also share how much we collectively appreciate all the hard work of the folks who carried it out during a very, very hot summer. They were there every day during the summer. They were there nights and weekends. Especially toward the end, you get the projects completed as soon as they could, just for and that's not just the concession stand, it's really all the projects we're talking about. Folks who put it in the carpet, nights and weekends, getting it in and that whole window of time.

Just to make sure, and you know, a lot of that was conversation we had make it happen. Yes we can and they get it coming off. We just appreciate all that work from the dedicated folks who helped us do it. Barbara, if you want to go to the next one. Alright, so just now some updates on facilities. Facilities updates for projects that are in progress. We're just completed the last week and are coming soon. If you can hit the next one again. Thank you. So another set of slides here. A lot of planning and work with FCPS and Fairfax High School. We are looking forward to, after a lot of planning with them, we're looking forward to new outdoor classroom space near Door 10. It's the area that the school is currently using as an outdoor

cafeteria or cafe setting. I think it's seniors only, and I I've seen almost 100 kids there sometimes, so it's really, really well used. Eventually that'll have nice pavers, some different sort of seating that'll be perfect for classroom space and lunch time space We're still expecting that by late fall. Had a little bit of a glitch with the plans being made for an area just to the right of the area we intended, but I think they're working on that. And that area would have been way too small, so we'll be happy with the result, I think. Also, we're looking at the possibility of updated lighting in the oldest parts of the building at Katherine Johnson Middle School. Some of it might be fixtures and some of it might be

bulbs, and we'll kind of work through that as we get estimates. As long as it's brighter, right? As long as

Carolyn Pitchesby voicewe get rid of the old 1960's. Because it's just so dark in there. It makes it

Dan Phillipsstaffso... It's definitely a thing that we need to look at and fix. You'll see at the bottom left hand corner the vendor just installed the new spirit doors, I'll call them, covering the doors, the entrance and exit for the athletic teams as they're going in and out We're working with Fairfax County Public Schools on the installation of the new security vestibule at Katherine Johnson Middle School. They had one plan, they started it. It took up an awful lot of the lobby. So we've asked them to move it back and that's moving forward also. And the last I heard, I checked and I haven't heard back, that that's the reduced size vestibule should be getting started kind of any minute now. I have a date in my mind that's in this week, but I haven't seen

Did they start

Carolyn Pitchesby voicemoving the, they did start moving some of the, where they had started. Well

Dan Phillipsstaffthey finished that and they kind of had to finish it because it was like an unfinished area. I don't imagine they're going to rip it down. I have a feeling they're going to leave it. But that leaves us with a mural that we can't see so we'll paint over that and repaint it eventually. But the vestibule closer to the buber should work a lot better and still leave us with some lobby. and it still preserves the mural without causing any damage to that. So that's coming very soon. It's also important to note that we're getting new vestibules at Daniels Run and at Providence. Fairfax County's been working on this project for a while, so we've been in the loop while they've done the planning, the design, and the beginning of the

permitting. We heard this last week that 95% of the planning for the Daniels Run vestibule has been completed. So they'll be in the next round of bids that go out. And the plan, the last we've heard the plan is to have that project done during this school year. So probably the fourth quarter of the school year we'd be hoping for the completion.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceYeah, they said they were going to start May, June, I think

Dan Phillipsstaffit's that, like it's the fiscal quarter. So it's during that. They'll finish

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceit during the summer, but I think that wasn't the plan.

Dan PhillipsstaffThat was the initial

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceplan.

Dan PhillipsstaffDuring that, correct.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceI hope they

Dan Phillipsstaffkeep the plan. Right, exactly. And we haven't heard different yet. And we've also put in a request that they move both of them up. But every school in Fairfax County wants their best of people sooner rather than later. So it's just reality. Daniels, Providence is in the queue also, but we're further back. So we're kind of two groups behind the Daniels run for the Providence best of people. Katherine Johnson was also in that first group schedule. So that kind of gives you a little bit a frame of reference. KJ first, then Daniels Run, then Providence. And I think that's my last one on that slide. Barb, real quick, if you want to go to that next one. The rails at Providence. They're done. So, there they are. That

Carolyn Pitchesby voicewarms my

Dan Phillipsstaffheart. Well, as soon as students touch them, they need to look quickly because they'll probably start to... Yeah.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceBut what did we talk about? We talked about

Dan Phillipsstaffhow

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceper-coded

Dan Phillipsstaffor

Carolyn Pitchesby voicea wrap.

Dan PhillipsstaffThat's probably, that'll be a more intensive project.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceThis is just

Dan Phillipsstaffthe painting.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceAnd

Dan Phillipsstaffthey're also touching up some other areas in the building. And I didn't get to check yet this afternoon, but I'll try to find out tomorrow about the front doors. We're working with FCPS to purchase and install the new school board at Fairfax High School. We expect this project to happen next summer. While they were putting in the concession stand and while they were putting in the press box, they've run along the conduit and the place, the wires will go to connect those buildings. put something down, rip it up, put in something new. This is just planning ahead and getting everyone to work nicely with each other. And for that scoreboard again, we're trying to thread the needle between spring and fall sports. And so if we

weren't into any issues, we'll get back to you. I'll just let you know what we hear. But I believe that would be a little bit. And then as you know, our old press box was unexpectedly condemned last winter and had to be torn down right away. You've seen the temporary box that's serving us well right now, and people seem very fond of that. And so we can report now that the new press box project is underway. We're aiming for a winter installation, but we'll also be mindful of threading that needle between the end of fall sports and the beginning of spring sports. And if we find out that it's not going to work, we're not going to take out the temporary press box that's functioning and have nothing for spring sports. So our intention is to have it done or not

not do it until summer.

Amit HickmanCan I just put a plug in for that? That was something that came up during the SAT meeting that I think was really important from the students because the spring sports students did not have a press

Dan Phillipsstaffbox

Amit Hickmanlast spring. So I understand the interest in getting it up as soon as possible but I also think being sensitive to those students is really important.

Dan PhillipsstaffAnd one of the students at Fairfax who works in the athletic department actually wrote an article about it to make sure everybody has the accurate information. That you shared with her. Yeah, well Miles, yeah. So, and it looked good.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceDan, do you want to talk about the paint? Yes. Dan and I have... We've

Dan Phillipsstafflooked at a lot of paint chips over the years. So, the way the press box is manufactured, they build a building, they put it on helical pier, so they basically put it on anchors so that we don't have the issues that we have with the old press box. Settling shift. Structural problems, settling shift. The material for the actual press box does not come in a Fairfax blue. And so that press box will be in white. The skirt that covers those helical piers will be in royal blue, Fairfax blue. We've also asked that some of the trim, if you look at this, this is not the actual press box, but it's an example. there's a little trim across the top also. We've asked that to match the skirt. So that should be in a Fairfax slash royal blue. If not

it will all be white and we'll be able to use blue lettering on the back to say Fairfax or the Lions or whatever you want to talk about. And so that's actually underway. We actually have a meeting tomorrow with the contractor. Just like a touch base meeting. with them. And so finally we expect finally on this slide, we expect that the security cameras that we planned, we installed the Providence and Daniel's run at some point during this year. We checked in with them again last week, so they're coming soon. Are they still

Amit Hickmanestimating winter?

Dan PhillipsstaffThey're still estimating that. And I asked for and was actually offered an update that should be coming soon. So as soon as I get that I'll share that with you in the weekly weekly information. So we met with them regarding we met with FCPS regarding the cameras and the potential some additional security enhancements that we're looking into. And we got a favorable response. So as that comes together we share more information. This was just a preliminary conversation about something we wanted to look at but we wanted to make sure we weren't crossing lines.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceRight,

Dan Phillipsstaffright, right. What

Carolyn Pitchesby voicewe discussed

Dan Phillipsstafftoday.

Eric ForemanstaffYes, correct.

Stacy Hallby voiceFor the press box, I wonder if we could maybe consider, you know the gentleman that did all the really cool murals at the middle school? We could get him to do something. I know he's dying to work at the high school.

Dan PhillipsstaffThere's a big blank space on the back of that new concession. There is, I think that would be a

Stacy Hallby voicegreat place for him.

Dan PhillipsstaffAll right. He's amazing.

Stacy Hallby voiceWe'll

Dan Phillipsstaffkeep that in mind. And then next slide, Devor. Thank you very much. The other capital plan updates, previously approved things. orchestra pit, hydraulic lift. We started having conversations. I think that it's probably prudent to take our time on that because we don't want to impact a full senior class for not being able to use it for chorus, band, strings, and all that stuff. So we're trying to make it very smart and very inclusive with the teachers for those programs. So we've had one preliminary meeting with them and with Ms. Cook. And we'll just move forward in a way that makes sense. And so our thinking is that whatever plan we have, there'll either be something in place to replace it or we'll work around what their plans are.

So let's find out about that. Basketball stanchions, we've been talking about those for a while. It should, well, again, we're threading a needle because you don't want to disrupt the sports that go on or instruction during the school. We're

Kendall Barrystaffthreading a lot. So much sewing.

Dan PhillipsstaffYes, yes, lots of threading. More than I expected. Those are coming this summer and they'll probably do the repairs first with adding the new stanchions before basketball camp this summer. So hopefully that happens. Talked about security cameras already. For the FY26 we've requested the softball field renovation. We're getting estimates on that. We've put in some funding for that. And again, considering just the male and female sports and the balance that's required, it's something that we definitely need to pay looking at the improvements for the old restrooms so that we have a facility on both sides, upper and lower, just as planned. Looking at the Katherine Johnson lighting and then the, I've said all that stuff,

the additional security measures. And then if you just want to look at the last, next to last slide.

Amit HickmanSorry Dan,

Stacy Hallby voicereal quick,

Amit HickmanI have a question. How long is that orchestra pit, the development on that, how long does that take? How long has

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceit been going on?

Amit HickmanIt's been

Dan Phillipsstaffgoing on for years

Amit HickmanYeah, but I mean, I meant like, once you start working on it, because you were talking about it possibly...

Dan PhillipsstaffI think there are a couple of different options about how we would do it. Go ahead. Yeah, you were saying that. It's

Carolyn Pitchesby voicenot an easy project.

Dan PhillipsstaffAt all. It's not the easiest thing to retrofit, because that's not there's a... There are no pathways, and that, when you look at the current orchestra pit area, that's actually You have to take out what's

Amit Hickmanthere,

Dan Phillipsstaffput in what's new.

Amit HickmanSo how long will that take? Depends

Jeff Platenbergstaffby voiceon which

Dan Phillipsstaffway.

Jeff Platenbergstaffby voiceIf it's done one year? Learn not to commit. Could be.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceI

Jeff Platenbergstaffby voicewas just trying to figure the ballpark. I'm sorry Mr. Phillips if I could. The reality is, the type of work depending on which path and the conversation Mr. Phillips has been having with the curriculum folks on what might serve best for our use and the community use. that will determine which approach. The approach then that's determined, any of them do not have any of the electrical or any of the lift hydraulic ability without tearing out that substrate, the flooring that's there.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceWe had already determined that. The last board, the problem was we had looked at the electric option and then the manual. The manual option, you have to pay every time. Every time you want to put it on. And you have to store

Dan Phillipsstaffit.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceYeah.

Dan PhillipsstaffAnd it's an ongoing expense.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceYeah. And the electric, it was the issue of the hydraulics and the electrical. And it was, it was, at the time it was just not, we had so many other issues on the exterior of the building that we had to.

Jeff Platenbergstaffby voiceAnd the concession stand and the turf field and the lighting and

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceI'm holding

Jeff Platenbergstaffby voicea book. It's not like some of those developments. It's on the books.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceConsidering we have a huge theater program. Correct. And an academy program. Well, there's only, what, Hayfield has one, and there's two schools in all of Fairfax County. Well, I'm just saying, in general, when we had one, it just doesn't work anymore. anymore. But, you know, when that theater was built, it was state of the art. It's like everything else is, you know, data ground.

Dan PhillipsstaffAlright, the next slide. Thanks, Barb. This really just sums up everything that we talked about. At the top you can see our ongoing yearling maintenance. All the things that we do to kind of keep things as hard as we can and at the bottom you can see the projects that are already approved and the proposed projects. The kind of more modest look at those. And then finally just you know, keeping the facilities updated is kind of messy work but it's always fun to see things happen. And see the projects get finished. Any questions or thoughts?

Sarah KelseyMs. Kelsey. Just a clarification. I'm sure we've talked about it before, but the entrance enhancements to the bathrooms at Fairfax High School, that last thing. Yeah. Where?

Jeff Platenbergstaffby voiceWhat?

Dan PhillipsstaffWe

Sarah Kelseydidn't change the word.

Dan PhillipsstaffWe've actually, yeah, we actually, the board. That's why I'm confusing. The original conversation was about changing the pathway for the girls to the entrance to the girls' restroom. This

Sarah Kelseyis down on the football but when I read this I read it's a high school the entrance back I'm going where is the bathroom at the entrance?

Dan PhillipsstaffI got no it's the one of them. Okay. Yeah. So maybe we could

Sarah Kelseyput like outdoor back there

Dan Phillipsstafflike football field or something. Yeah, no, that

Sarah Kelseyjust kind of made me think

Dan PhillipsstaffDid I say stadium? I thought I said at the stadium, but I think no, it just

Sarah Kelseysays Fairfax High School restroom entrance. That's

Dan Phillipsstaffnothing new that we're building.

Sarah KelseyAnd that's why I'm like, where's the bathroom at the entrance?

Dan PhillipsstaffWhich one was it? We

Amit Hickmantalked about the work enhancements last

Dan Phillipsstafftime. Where was it?

Amit HickmanIt's

Dan Phillipsstaffthe very last time. I said security enhancements, but I'm not sure who said it. Oh, gotcha. Yeah, we just changed it. Yeah, there

Sarah Kelseyit's stadium restroom improvements. Yeah, there you go. It's just on here was different and that's why my brain was not working. No, you're good. I'll fix that. Thank you.

Stacy Hallby voiceThank you. A couple comments and then questions. One, in looking back at the photos of the concession stand, I'm actually very disappointed that we were not asked to come and put our hands in the cement. I listen to my dad's businesses and I feel like it would have been very cool to attend.

Dan PhillipsstaffWell, we could pour some new cement. You know what, the press box is still coming. You know what,

Carolyn Pitchesby voicewe'll get the steps painted. Maybe we can have

Dan Phillipsstaffthe yellow,

Carolyn Pitchesby voicewe have Ms. Hall put a yellow hand print on the paw print. Go next to the

Stacy Hallby voiceglitter step.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceThere you go. Yeah, the glitter step.

Stacy Hallby voiceWhat's going to be fencing going to be like? I know there's temporary ones now, but what's the, is it going to be what we had before? It'll be

Dan Phillipsstafflike

Stacy Hallby voicethe black with the

Dan Phillipsstaffblock. Well, we've got a, there's a curb in there that we need to address. And that's where you can, when you go in now, there's sort of a lower fence. with that because if you didn't have that in there it's sort of in an awkward spot right now but you'd have a curb like a tripping hazard. Okay. And so we'll think once the new press box is in we'll figure out the fencing and it'll all be that black coated.

Stacy Hallby voiceOkay.

Dan PhillipsstaffJust like that short fence is.

Stacy Hallby voiceOkay. Lockers at the middle school is Mr. Smith having the students use them or are they still off limits and if they are still off limits would it make sense to consider taking them out? because

Carolyn Pitchesby voicethe

Stacy Hallby voiceflooring

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceis like a huge undertaking it's like the high school we had talked about a few years ago removing the lockers out of the high school but we have those locker islands near the A hallway it's just the whole thought of having to redo the flooring and then we talked about the high school when we were so overcrowded which we were creeping back up to there wasn't enough space in the hallway back going again another foot of space right but it's just not 15

Kendall Barrystaffyears you

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceknow when they do that

Kendall Barrystaffyeah when

Carolyn Pitchesby voicethey do when they go to when whatever board is sitting here goes asks for bond for the next renovation of the high school or the middle school that would be something yeah because by then kids are really not going to have Or they won't have a need for a locker that large. They could do maybe something a little different. If they wanted to offer lockers.

Stacy Hallby voiceMy last question comment. I know we've been discussing the stadium speakers back in the board. Is there a more recent update that we should expect to hear at the next game?

Dan PhillipsstaffProbably not until the new school board is in. You know what I mean? Right now it's adjusting what they have by literally moving them or just adjusting the sound. And I have a feeling, like I don't know how the acoustics work, but weather patterns and all that stuff play into it. So when it's a clear night, 7 doesn't mean the same thing as a cloudy night on 7, you know? And so it's kind of game to game.

Stacy Hallby voiceWe went to a game somewhat recently, and they actually had a speaker that was across the field. Facing back? Talking to our side of the field. So it was just kind of amplifying it a little bit differently.

Dan PhillipsstaffI don't even know how they would do that with the wiring, but I guess they'd get it somehow. That's kind of how I'll look into it. I don't know. I can look into it. It could be. I can check with Ms. Wendler in this moment.

Stacy Hallby voiceI just feel like I always miss out what's going on sometimes.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceThe sound system is all going to be replaced. Correct. This

Jeff Platenbergstaffby voiceis a temporary setup.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceAnd it's been

Jeff Platenbergstaffby voicebad. It was bad

Carolyn Pitchesby voicebefore. You

Stacy Hallby voicecan hear better now. I just didn't know if we were still able to get

Sarah Kelseya little bit better just for the season without a lot of tweaks or costs. It also depends on your event. Because when I went to the field hockey game, it was not bad at all. You could say it's the crowd because they have to raise the volume. And so this side is going to hear it really loud because they're trying to make sure everybody can. So, yeah, so it just depends on your opinion.

Stacy Hallby voiceThank you. I appreciate all you guys.

Amit HickmanI just want to, it's not really a question. I just want to put it out there that, not to be Debbie Downer, but if the bond does not pass, and we have to vote for this on November 12th, and on November 5th it doesn't pass, I would, no, we said we have to vote on it November 12th, but it only gives them a short period of time to revise it. Oh, yeah.

Dan PhillipsstaffOh, we've already, we've

Amit Hickmanalready. I just want to say, make sure you're already talking about it, because clearly some of these things would be lovely, but we have to replace, like, walls and mold, or I don't know if there's really a bottle, or whatever, in the elementary schools, like the lighting, like that's going to have to become, we've got to look at what those must-haves.

Jeff Platenbergstaffby voiceThank you, and we do have that in the draft. That was the feedback the school board gave us. So the next CIP iteration will not only have this, but it will also have a segment that talks about the items from the FCA. So

Amit Hickmanlike the plan B.

Jeff Platenbergstaffby voicePlan B.

Amit HickmanWe have one more meeting.

Jeff Platenbergstaffby voiceKind of a diluted plan B because it stretches it way

Amit Hickmanout. Okay. No, we don't have another meeting before the election. We moved that meeting to the end. So you will only have to present that to us if the bond does not pass. Correct. Okay.

Jeff Platenbergstaffby voiceI'm still going to have to present the

Amit HickmanCIP. put on the record and make sure we're talking about it. Absolutely.

Speaker 8And then

Amit Hickmanthere will be definitely no orchestra.

Carolyn Pitchesby voiceYeah, no orchestra. Okay. Sorry. Okay. Does anybody else have something? Okay.

Speaker 8I'm going to defer a meeting at 42. I'll just do a four-step.